In my case slimes, they have the best time kill ratio 812/h with 40% AFK rate. the exp is decent there but i'd rather have a whole bunch of statues. All crystal mobs have 15x hp, 35x exp, 2. With the stamp, book, shipments, and class talent for crystal mob rate, it will probably be pretty intense, and with the increased card rate talent, that's just even. Yes that's plat coins for every kill and purple ones for each crystal mob. As far as I know, this then means the 1 in 20k drop chances on the Bowman would become about 2. In your third skill tab (Maestro tab), there is a skill called Crystal Countdown (CC). So make sure you keep up with he curve. Each time i transfer all my chars are at 15 hp lol. Pretty much need choco chip (75% chance of respawning crystal mobs when you kill one). it's probably better to look at it as a 0. Drop chances (based on your characters drop rarity) are the same for monster killing afk vs. All obols are on the rare drop table, you can see the exact drop rate per mob there. When get your first crystaline stamp, best to use it yourself (stamp pig) and upgrade it for more crystal chance. You might get like a hundred or more depending on how many minigame. Here is the information on crystal mobs taken from discord/wiki:Go to idleon r/idleon • by. ES wormhole only affects mobs coming from the wormhole. Rift 5: Kill big guy on 5 characters, he can regen. ago. There is also a skill dropped by a quest in the picnic basket chain that gives you +% spawn chance. Idleon Toolbox * Please consider disabling your ad-blocker to show your support for the platform, ensuring free access to valuable content for all users Power up your Legends of Idleon adventure with Idleon Toolbox's essential tools and resources for optimizing gameplay, character builds, crafting, and more. ago. The heftiest boosts are very far into world 3 and 4. Cryosnake. When you get to floms later on and keep working on damage and cash upgrades, well, this start happening. These monsters have their own loot pool that drops many statues, rare drops from across the world, and give significantly more EXP per kill. You'll pretty inevitably have to put some effort into farming them even after maxing out that mob's Death Note, in which case drop rate, respawn, and attack/move speed (on some. Join. there is a 1 in 2000 chance for the crystal carrot to spawn, however that doesn't mean it WILL spawn as a garuntee in 2000, that's just the odds. lvl 50 ,we start to kill crystal mobs to reduce our max xp, upon reaching 59. 42% chance to drop 2x loot for 7 Minutes) Or a spread of points for Crystals, Cards, Drop Rate, Rares for general farming purposes? (Wouldn't do anything money because I don't kill things fast enough I wouldn't think)Crystals 4 Dayys: A reward from the sixth quest in the Picnic Stowaway daily questline (The Last Supper, at Least for Today!) Higher chance to spawn crystal monsters: A: Useful in farming crystal mobs which is a prerequisite to a number of important items so worth investing in on the character you plan to farm on onlyW2 sandcastles is a great place to farm obol fragments, they drop both circle obols bronze-gold and silver double sixes square obols (also very good for your DR) I also find my inventory doesn't fill up crazy fast like it does in w1 since I'm usually to lazy to inventory prep. By using the spear and putting flys and moon cards in the double card slot im getting ~2. Just pushed my VMan from 206 to 251 with only 5 Crystal mobs, and some lucky choco procs :) It's coming, make sure. r/idleon. r/electronicmusic • The Glitch Mob's Live set at the Mixmag Lab in L. info]. There you see a few numbers, most important are kill/xp per hour and something in a percentage. That's 1 Shotting the potatoes. I went from 2. Enable/disable ability bar switching when weapon switching. . Guaranteed Crystal Mob – 3 Interesting, really good way to use your skulls if you need crystal cards. Otherwise, just park every character at rats until you get em. For crystal farming, I recommend getting the Crystal 4 dayys Special Talents from the Picnic Basket chain quest (up to magic meat loaf) to help. to start money comes from killing crystal mobs "the further the mob the more coins". Go to idleon r/idleon • by. More; Page actions. W1/Winding Willows (Baby Boa), Acc 67 should be enough for 100% crystal carrot. For mini bosses (biggie, purp mush etc) DK is best cause you can farm the mobs to increase orb number and then summon the mini boss. After the World 3 patch Dedotated Rams are one of the strongest mobs on the game. They give good money but most importantly you will be needing Pealer Shells for various tools/bags. the cookie chip is huge. Advice needed on farming w3,4,5 statues for onyx. Then camp the best maps per world, where lots and lots of mobs spawn at once. Crystal Mob Spawn, Dungeon Loot Dice, and Arcade Balls (although Dungeon Loot dice might have a use if you are trying to push Dungeons/keychains, edit: and Arcade Balls can be a. Slimes is the best map, although if you don't have full POP obols, farm Giga Frogs. The heftiest boosts are very far into world 3 and 4. I think this quest line is also accompanied by YouTube vids for you to get them done. Go to idleon r/idleon. The one that increases luck also increases crystal mob chance, so that one could be well worth investing into on a main active character or maestro. then prioritise. Lvl active is always better. Yeah, crystal mobs have really tough rates in the first 2 worlds. Bonus from the orb will apply to the crystal mobs resulting in big. Then teleport to the area, and switch card presets to your dr build. Chance. Join. The 3rd to last shrine that can be unlocked in construction gives a significant boost to crystal mob chances (and to giant spawn rates) For the cards, you can unlock certain laboratory chips that boost (as in double) the effects of the cards that you place in the top left and bottom right corner of a card set. Meastro has better crystal spawning rates due to skills. Crystals refer to Crystal Monsters, a rare mob that you find by killing local mobs. World 2 Statues The hardest part is the cards. lvl 51, we continue to kil crystals until we reach. 2% for 160. If you max all your main damage boosts only and increase skilling xp, cranium cooking, alchemy speed and increase your crystal chance stamp to (I think mines like over 100 ish give or take 20 plus the lab link that doubles) max both crystal mobs cards and have your star talent for skilling speed and crystal spawn maxed. the other maps have useful statues aswell but those two. Multitasking your farming is more powerful. Hope that clears. Then you set up your maestro to kill as many crystal mobs as possible. Otherwise, just park every character at rats until you get em. Category: Frostbite Tundra Effect: +% EXP from monsters Base Bonus: 3Random Time Candies (1hr, 4hr, 12hr) – 5. I would say there is 3 reasons to active farm: Active farming in floms, crystals give tons of XP/gold Active farming for statues/drops in w1-w3 Active farming becuase maestro sucks (at afk): not much to say about this, maestro just does better in active. Well, the short answer is, crystal mobs with high drop rate and loot bonus. Join. So like Frogs, Shifty sandbox, Mustaches, Cans. At max lvl Cmon out crystals give you a bonus 184. For the other cards, you want drop rate, money or XP while active, depending on current goal. < The map is flat, no need to climb to reach Rams. Once you log off a character or close the game they cease to exist. r/idleon. You want the genie card and poop card maxed and using the card doubler chips (250% extra crystal spawn chance). You can use some talents to boost/change the odds (JMan's Cmon Out Crystals, 150% at 100 points, and Crystals 4 Dayys special talent, about 115% at 100 points). rukashu. So they each have a specific use. Once you have that, toss it on your DK, maximize DR and crystal spawn chance, and active farm beans. class is still to new for people to have gathered data yet. Jman has a skill that lowers the exp requirement to level a skill for every crystal mob kill. snooze major (4% afk gain). If you have an active Maestro going, then it can get them. Those 6 hits could have been a crystal kill that's what i was thinking. Archers and maestro have an advantage due to. Cards Galore. 6 hours active at tree top just to see how it went (I don't have chocolate chip yet) you've just sold me on ES for rare drop farming. again. The auto pathing makes a nice loop so youre always killing something instead of running to it. Es can active some maps other classes would find impossible due to layout/mob density. With all the bonuses combined it shouldn’t take too long. The orb talent multiplies the amount of stuff you get from killing crystals as you get more and more hundred orb stacks. In world 1 the best place to actively kill things for crystals is the slimes, especially the platform on the right where a bunch spawn together. When active, skilling will only award resources, no cards / stamps / rare drops. 42% chance to drop 2x loot for 7 Minutes) Or a spread of points for Crystals, Cards, Drop Rate, Rares for general farming purposes? (Wouldn't do anything money because I don't kill things fast enough I wouldn't think) Crystals 4 Dayys: A reward from the sixth quest in the Picnic Stowaway daily questline (The Last Supper, at Least for Today!) Higher chance to spawn crystal monsters: A: Useful in farming crystal mobs which is a prerequisite to a number of important items so worth investing in on the character you plan to farm on only W2 sandcastles is a great place to farm obol fragments, they drop both circle obols bronze-gold and silver double sixes square obols (also very good for your DR) I also find my inventory doesn't fill up crazy fast like it does in w1 since I'm usually to lazy to inventory prep. All crystal mobs have 15x hp, 35x exp, 2. He can get way more drops from crystals, giants, colosseum or minibosses, plus decent money and base materials. Respawning mob cards is ES (you can snapshot card drop using a second card preset with card drop cards on). if you get the secret class you get a talent for spawning more crystals aswell If you’re going for crystals and dr, go farm the gigafrogs at the end of w1 with DK, if you need crit and speed statues go for the last map in w2 with DK. Cmon Out Crystals: An absolute must for when you want to go crystal carrot farming for drops from these special crystal mobs that are required for certain quests and item drops. You can utilize the journeyman talent that increases their spawn rate, the crystallin stamp, the poop card (lol). ago. 1 shaman. Basic principles. more xp with crystal mob. Also might not be a terrible idea if you are j starting out with crystal farming to farm maps that give cards that increase crystal mob spawn chance i. Now the video that was made was over a year old and it didnt take into account card drop upgrades. . There's one exception: The Rat. There's poop and genie cards, two lab chips that double card bonuses, special talent to boost crystal mob chance, maestro talent to 160 that boost crystal chance, a stamp that boosts crystal mobs, shrine to increase crystal mobs then chaotic boss card that increases the effect of shrines. If you can wait just a bit and unlock w3 I *think* death note affects zowing, but if you're trying to grind exp and zow at the same time then it doesn't really matter and you'll just need to. It shows you how many eggs you've found till a maximum of 50 per day. The Crystal Crabal is a rare enemy that has a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you kill an enemy in Yum-Yum Desert (World 2). active but you get more kills/hr active so it’s generally better to farm that way. In summary: DK: mostly Statue and crystal farming with some advantages to coliseum and boss farming (like mutated mush where you can farm orb stacks) ES: Pretty much everything else. No multikill doesn't work for crystals, u want a place with a lot mobs or some other nice drop. 123JakeyG • 5 mo. 75% is huge even w/o those omega two chips, once you get it, you should expect your crystal chance to be well under 1 in 20. . orb more relevant if you have choc chip, if you don't have choc chip and had to choose, knightly disciple/imbued/mongo might be better to get more raw crystal spawns. DK is best for crystal farming because orb kills have a weird droprate multiplier, it effects rare drops. It can't drop from afk because crystal mobs don't spawn during afk. SmallSeaCat. ago. that's a lie. The Crystal Carrot is a rare enemy that has a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you kill an. 20 per install after reaching threshold. There is also one of the post office boxes, the bottom right one that increases drop chance at first. Idleon Siege Breaker Sailing Build. Chip, it may possibly be more worthwhile farming W2/W3 crystal mobs. Upgrade stones. Crabcakes, also for the rare drop. ago. 0 coins. Late game you can get a lot from W1 crystal mobs. A higher crystal chance probably makes beans better overall, I guess. Update: I've already made an unreleased yet implementation. Crystal Carrot has 15x HP, gives 30x EXP, requires 2. that's a lie. He's not a character made for damage. You ask what skills, alchemy etc I was using. There are lots of ways to boost crystal mob spawn rate, you want to boost it however you can. ago. I may be missing other sources. Took me 5-10 minutes, with 1. second best is to make a Thread and 2x Trusty Nails as that is 0. The giant mob cheat does however not seem. Category: Blunder Hills Effect: +% Crystal Mob Spawn Chance. Go to idleon r/idleon • by. Spam the first box. Crystal Mobs, DK Reply More posts you may like. That’s way you maximize your orb kills and can stack your printer output talent. Also Sorry for taking so long. It wasn't until I respecced my jman specifically for this (luck, drop rate, crystal spawn chance) that I got the drop. The increase of levels now will increase your status farming ability in a shorter. Crystal Mobs Farming. Do the same, upgrade and merge them to make gold square obols and once all your squares are full combine gold obols to make platinum and dimentia dice obols. Note that you have to be actively playing for crystal mobs to spawn and their strength is a multiple of the current mob you are fighting so you’ll want to fight in a. I'm 3. That 75% instant respawn per crystal mob kill will make any sort of killing do able. ヽ༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ ノ Raise ur dongers! Naw problem not since meals go to lvl 60 atm. unity. this if you intend to use DK as your active character for a little. DK is better for flat maps, Bubo outpaces on varied maps . The longer the chain goes, and the longer it takes you to kill them, the more likely you are to run into the situation where the timer expires, and they have lower stats and give no XP. Reason to. exennycs • 8 mo. The Maestro skill "Crystal Countdown" will raise the percentage of a random skill upto a cap based on how high the skill is leveled per crystal mob killed. When the discount is high enough, swap to the skilling build, stack as much EXP gain between cards, star. 5x more damage than the enemies in the area it spawns in. You could check on Idleon Efficiency for your skill max exp reduction % and use candy while skilling to gain faster skill leveling exp. Yes, I fit 4 explosions in one video. 24. ago. 1 hunter. Divine Intervention: Central to the active playstyle of the Divine Knight this allows you to respawn all mobs on screen a few seconds after the map is clear (crystal monsters do not need to be dead for this to trigger). Play IdleOn for free: Steam (recommended): Watch my last arcade ball go back at every bounce to the silver zone. The secret Journeyman class also has a class talent that also raises crystal rates. But Bubonic can farm so much faster. CC decreases the required experience needed to level up a random world 1-3 skill by 2% whenever you kill a crystal mob (StartXP * 0. I've had the most luck on crabbycakes or whatever they're called. The typical strategy is to complete a bunch of the picnic basket quest to get the star talent book reward that increases crystal mobs spawn rates. 5k in an. . I would personally wait until your drop rate is 12X or more and you have min/maxed crystal mob drop rate. Go to your PO box. They get their stats based on the mob you killed to spawn them. You need the tribe pigs quest, his location is in the last map of the jungle with gigafrogs, he is on the down left of the map, you need his 2nd quest active, first quest is to get the stamp from the gigafrogs battleaxe stamp or something and then you get the other quest, i think its crystal time stopper is the name. waiting. ago. Other than for limited runs per day bosses like efaut, doot, defect, ect; i see no reason to ever run jman because a bowman (especially afk) would do it just as well if not better, with higher dmg so you can do harder mobs, and the flexability to. Thermister. Ah, my bad. Poops and rats I've found are the best. get your skills up to the min XP needed to lvl up(35% of max with 160 talent points) and from there play actively until that skill lvls up on its own from killing. Get a dude built for active play with 100 points in that talent and farm a stamp. With all that I managed to kill 10 of them on my journeyman for a weekly in about 5 hours. So if you know what the most optimal maps are ahead of time you will be able to take advantage of totems to farm them earlier than normal, and increase the xp gain across multiple characters of similar level. Then skill him while I am at work. Beyond the crystal stamp there's also the cards dropped by Poops. Invincible Crystal Carrot Spawn. You can increase the chances of it spawning using the Crystals 4 dayys. The special respawns aren't used in the calculation. If you have the cookie chip (75% chance to respawn crystal) it great for silver pen farming or statues farming in older worlds. They need only 2,250 accuracy to reach 100%. That's the current meta. My favorite places to farm crystals are : slimes, they are just alot of them. If you have hundreds of boss keys saved up, then you can grind out a bunch against Efaunt or Chizoar. The W1 crystal is the 2nd best drop rate card, and the W2 and W3 crystal cards are 2 of the better class XP cards. Show off cool items you've found, discuss the best builds for each class, and theorize about how to unlock the super secret areas!. NSFW_Nzdevil. Do they compensate it by having horrible drops? I know they require a bit more ACC than other mobs though. o Figure active build only good for farming Crystals mob cards =) i've seem a lot of good pros about active hunter on reddit and youtube #3. Best. Unity to significantly impact incremental games, charging up to $0. Id suggest poops then. 5k hours in, took me until I had a character level 100 before I realised active farming was better XD But now doing Crystal farming as I just got lucky with Gem shop chips and got Chocolate Chip Cookie. Still strugle with kitchen upgrades and pet arena in W4 and don't have all laboratory bonuses active. Maestro’s also benefit from killing these crystal mobs given their Crystal Countdown talent allows them to reduce skill experience required for these kills. That would bring the odds to about 3. Crystal mobs spawn with 15 times more hp and 2. C’mon out Crystals. ago. This is a relativelly low amount, Neyeptunes need 5,100, 12,750 crystals >. Demon Genie should be your #1 priority if you want to improve your crystal farming productivity. Star Signs. It shouldn't take more than a day or two afk to get 'em, too. Farm actively in zones where your Maestro can 1shot mobs and the respawn rate is enough: every crystal mob you kill, it will lower (up to -65%) the EXP required for a random skill. oh i was wondering about the duration of items, thanks for that nugget of wisdom. It's best use is offline mob farming Sorcerer will soon reveal what type. This page was last edited on 28 December 2022, at 03:07. Crystal farming on a Maestro with Chocolate Chip from Lab yields stupid amounts of pens and statues. Questions regarding Obols / Crystal farming. Show off cool items you've found, discuss the best builds for each class, and theorize about how to unlock the super secret areas!. ReplyResets weekly. So more than depending on barb to grind infinite ladles, plate upgrades should be mainly dictated by increase in cooking speed. Increasing this star-weighted count to 28 (2*14), will increase the set's tier. Before the voidwalker update, maestro ended up being very bad at actually farming things from crystals because it had no AoE at all, and no respawn mechanic. You'll see there's really two different values. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews. WretcheddSkyz • 2 yr. Otherwise, as others have said, make sure you're taking full advantage of Crystal Countdown (go two levels at a time: after you max out your CC reduction, level the skill up, then continue levelling it until 33% exp or whatever 100 minus your max CC is. Add a Comment. Sir Stache. <The map is flat, no need to climb to reach Rams. 5x more damage than the enemies in the area it spawns in. The actual spawn rate is 1/2000 on kill for a crystal mob to spawn. With all the bonuses combined it shouldn’t take too long. Sandy Pot. W1/Winding Willows (Baby Boa), Acc 67 should be enough for 100% crystal carrot. 5x higher accuracy and does 2. DK orb affects all mobs on map including crystals. weltschmerz79 • 8 mo. If you do, slimes are good and in W2 crabcakes are good for me. Just have your crystal chance very high, mob respawn rate high, and max out the rarity drop and double drop skills for Maestro. After reading a bunch of things about this, I'm quite confused as to how farming crystal mobs works. e. I have 65 and missed 100% for 30 mins while also killing snakes around. History. So u won't bother with the skill stats (str, wis or agi) to level up your Maestro skills. You also might need a char with complete %respawn gear to not have downtimes / waiting for mobs to respawn. Poops and rats I've found are the best. Wait until you can max your damage talent and crystals related talents, and work on your crystal spawn source (star talent, poop card and stamp also shrine later) I had about 1/120 crystal spawn chance when I started, I recon it was pretty slow though. Go to idleon r/idleon. For the rest, there is no difference, you can get rare drops while offline. but I would still bet for maestro Anyways, the extra skill xp gained form killing them on your maestro far outweighs whatever extra kills/hour you could get when farming them with hunter. ago. Take that stamp and turn it in to the stamp dude. It's the only normal mob that has a high drop rate. These monsters have their own loot pool that drops many statues, rare drops. 2K. poop map or genie map if you have the equipment to farm. r/idleon. 005% chance of having that 1 specific stamp drop off any creature in W1. Snowman. Make sure to hover over the crystal spawn chance you see on idleon efficiency, so you can see all the bonuses. 16666. I dont have choco chip so I gotta really work on every crystal mob% source I can 97 Bowman, 116 Wizard and 93 Barbarian stuck in jail lab so I can work on sigils and get 2x killcount to make the W4 character go fasterA collection of all the enemies you can encounter within Legends Of Idleon (for a comparison table check Bestiary/Table). So that 15% in this case reduces it to roughly a 1 in 337,450 chance. . I usually active afk for 30 minutes to an hour at a time a couple of times a week and I've been trying since jman came out. ES's portal and kills you can get from an active standpoint outweighs the DKs orbs. Hey guys, I‘m not sure if everyone realised yet, but if you have some underleveled characters, you can simply put them on the Crystal Island with a Choco Chip and EXP cards, and get insane amounts of levels. r/idleon. despite elites improving the drop rate considerably, its still a 1/100k drop chance for pop and a 1/12k-20k drop chance from a crystal crab. So if you afk 10 hours with 1000 kills/hour and a 1/5000 chance, you'd spawn 2 crystal mobs after logging in and getting your gains. Maestro because of it's massive personal drop rate boost and skill efficiency boosts for other. IdleOn playlist: So yeah. Statue farming is more of an end game project after you have pretty much “beaten” world 5 Reply More posts you may like. * active as in having idleon open on an old phone 24/7 while you. ago. Bubo still good for alchemy/money, but elemental sorcerer is best for base mob drops or their rare drops. Wooooooh! Vman cooking buff is crazy. Virtual_Ball6 • 8 mo. Show off cool items you've found, discuss the best builds for each class, and theorize about how to unlock the super secret areas!. use ES to farm Pop obols and DK to farm Dice obols). Rift 7: Defeat Mega monster who can self heal, on 5 chars. All crystal mobs have 15x hp, 35x exp, 2. All crystal spawn bonuses are multiplicative so with enough invested in all of them, you can spawn a decent amount (4-5 per hour for me). Death Note & Multikill Explained. I'll try and post my idleonefficiency link later when I. 1 in 100 and so on. DK is best for crystal farming because orb kills have a weird droprate multiplier, it effects rare drops. r/idleon. Slimes, snakes and carrots have the power statue in their drop table which is why you get more. Making some more big gains in Legends of IdleOn but the biggest thing I start in this video is crystal farming with crystal countdown to get massive gains on. Get enough beholder statues combined with talents and you’ll be 100% Critting and megacritting on your bubo before too long. Farm statues on DK. But if you can meet the damage caps for W1 mobs it'll beat any other characters afk farming rates there. I have 65 and missed 100% for 30 mins while also killing snakes around. I'm farming for giant and crystal mobs, but with auto look on, I'm not picking anything up, seems pointless leaving it actively farming if I'm losing all this loot? comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. I have 65 and missed 100% for 30 mins while also killing snakes around. I'm currently sitting on 241 of them after a day of farming. For World 1 its slimes, for World 2 its the CrabCake Map, for World 3 I'd say its the Sir Moustache Map and World 4 I dont know yet. When the timer is up the accuracy requirement for the mobs is set to 0, I do not know what it does with drops, the kill will count. Yep, that is the secret area linked to the youtube videos. Not sure for SB as the class only came out yesterday but best place for DK is flat maps. I thought maybe I'd come back to atleast double. I feel like either RNG is messing with me, or I'm doing something wrong. boss A uses 1 5 50 keys for base chaotic nightmare. I just looked over the drops of crystals am I correct that they don't drop any statues? I'm really farming for the card to increase crystal spawn, but it's kind of a bummer w4 crystal mobs are kinda useless?Not really, some things can only be acquired by farming actively (crystal mobs for examples) and the only thing preventing me from keeping the game open while I go to work or even overnight to farm them is the lag caused by the items. That’s why DK is best for crystal farming; ES is better for main drop farming and rare mob drops (not loot bag table) as. Thanks! Nothing has been nerfed, it is probably something with your setup you overlooked. Use cards that boost damage too if you can’t one shot mobs. 91% reduction we will lvl up to 51. Finally killed the most powerfull monster in the game: Giant Bloodbone. Also hope you enjoyed the video. The 15% increase is to it's specific drop rate on that table, if we take slimes for example there is a 1 in 397,000 chance that if that rare drop table is selected you will get a agi obol. Best place to farm crystal mobs for each world? What is the best place to farm for them? 15 comments Best Add a Comment Stealthychicken85 • 2 yr. In my experience, you should put your priority to rush to the last mob on world 2 (sneibie). The only way to afk farm crystals is hitting auto at the bottom and leaving the game on while mman farms for themThe Crystal Custard is a rare enemy that has a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you kill an enemy in Hyperion Nebula (World 4). • 4 mo. Max out your crystal spawn chance, and farm CCD at the same time!. At a base 2k kills per spawn, that means 200k kills is expected time to get the drop at 2x drop rate. Frost Flake. ZOW farming is a great thing to do if you don't need your barb to be doing something else (i. ago.